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29th April 2005, 04:41 AM
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So, has anyone read the ROTS novelization yet? Dooku's purpose, ultimately, is grand indeed, and central to everything we know about Star Wars.
I think it's gonna be one helluva summer.
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29th April 2005, 05:01 PM
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I kinda figured Palpatine was using Dooku for something. That, or in the end, using him to help sway Anakin to the dark side.
The one thing that bothers me, is that they never showed enough relationship between the Emperor and Dooku. It's like Darth Maul got halved, then all of a sudden you jump to Ep II and Dooku is the Sith apprentice. I also wonder if Dooku KNOWS that Palpatine and Sidious are one.
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29th April 2005, 07:59 PM
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Count Dooku is not dare i say a striaght forward villain like palpatine, as Dooku's purpose was to topple the republic as he believes it to be corrupt. Unlike palpatine who craves power and wants to rule the universe. he is ultimately betrayed by palpatine, who both have a very different vision on the future of the galaxy. Dooku may commit evil acts but like all great screen villains he believes what he is doing will be for the greater good.
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30th April 2005, 08:05 AM
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Dooku, ultimately, is just a pawn in Palpatine's grand scheme. But as we'll see on May 19th, his purpose is literally pivotal.
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8th May 2005, 03:39 PM
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I keep avoiding books and internet sites to be more suprised on the 19th. I think the movies more enjoyable if you dont know what happens ...although i think Anakin turns into Dart Vader ...but i m just guessing :p
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8th May 2005, 10:43 PM
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Hey, pick up the game if you don't care about spoilers (which I don't; I actually like knowing what's coming...allows me to imagine it for myself and then compare). I will tell you that although Dooku's role is minimal in terms of screen time, it's absolutely central to the storyline and kicks the film off. Dooku's ultimate role has purpose.
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10th May 2005, 09:08 PM
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Dave,
I'm just like you...I NEED to know what happens. I love knowing all the stuff before the film comes out.
I was dying when I read Dooku's 'outcome' in the novel. In fact I reread it several times just because I totally loved how the author wrote it and you know darn well that this scene in the film can't possibly convey what Dooku's thinking at the time. And you are sooooo right, his purpose is probably the most important of any event to Anakin's 'development'.
Keep the discussion coming buddy, this movie is gonna be so Awesome!
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12th May 2005, 03:47 AM
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Sadly,
Count Dooku is a mere steping stone to the scheme of things.
But Christopher Lee's performance saved the new "Star Wars" trilogy. Besides his fight with Yoda, Sir Christopher Lee hit the right tone as an elegant science fiction villian. It would be a classy move if they CGI Peter Cushing in the final scene.
At least Sir Christopher will rise again in "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory!"
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14th May 2005, 07:56 AM
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We do see Moff Tarkin in the new film. He's seen briefly, overseeing construction on the Death Star. Whether his lookalike is prosthetics-based, CGI or a combination of both, I'm not clear on.
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14th May 2005, 07:03 PM
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[quote=Cinemadave]Sadly,
Count Dooku is a mere steping stone to the scheme of things.
But Christopher Lee's performance saved the new "Star Wars" trilogy. Besides his fight with Yoda, Sir Christopher Lee hit the right tone as an elegant science fiction villian. It would be a classy move if they CGI Peter Cushing in the final scene.
Agree 100% on Christopher Lee saving the trilogy with his performance as Dooku ,hands down the best part of the series. Im not being biased as a CL fan as many reviews and fans agree the hanger duel is the biggest highlight from the last film.
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16th May 2005, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Fred B But Christopher Lee's performance saved the new "Star Wars" trilogy. | He was the best Darth of the new trilogy...
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19th May 2005, 04:46 PM
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I've just come back from watching the film.... not sure about the whole thing, but I was astounded by just how brief Mr Lee's role was. In fact, I was sorely disappointed.
It may be clear in the novelisation of Dooku's 'ultimate role' (which I haven't read and have no intention of reading) but in the film it is so cursory to be derisory. It's a complete waste. There is no expounding of Dooku's purported role, and indeed it's made clear that Palpatine gets rid of him for Anakin because he is younger.
Surely the films should take preference over all these EU books/games/cartoons/tshirts. Still, why waste time on characterisation when you can see hundreds of millions of dollars worth of special effects????
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20th May 2005, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by novak It may be clear in the novelisation of Dooku's 'ultimate role' (which I haven't read and have no intention of reading) but in the film it is so cursory to be derisory. It's a complete waste. There is no expounding of Dooku's purported role, and indeed it's made clear that Palpatine gets rid of him for Anakin because he is younger. |
Star Wars is about Anakin, not Dooku. Dooku served his purpose, and was discarded. There was never any reason to expect more.
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22nd May 2005, 03:21 AM
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Novak, i too was disappointed with DOOKUS screen time especially after saving AOTC....but, remember the universe of Star Wars has killed of promising figures like Darth Maul and Jango Fett after one film. Dooku was a pivotal part in AOTC and shows up in ROTS as well. He needs to fall to make way for the transformation of Darth Vader to become his new apprentice .
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22nd May 2005, 06:51 PM
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I think it was suggested that Dooku's death began a long chain of events, which is why it was a perfect opening.
For example, he seemed to be the key to the seperatists' success. A few of them express concerns over this, and General Grievous claims to have been trained by him. His death is a significant loss to them, and brings about their ultimate fall. Had Obi Wan Kenobi fought Dooku rather than Grievous, he would not have succeeded.
It is also the first sign that Anakin is becoming Palpatine's servant and a Sith. Dooku only has a single scene in this film, but it is certainly a pivotal one.
At least he goes out with a bang!
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